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A while ago, :iconpbird12: a.k.a Paula wrote an article
Fake art - why care and what to look forI posted this last week for anyone looking for help to spot fake art.  This is not law, if you don't care, feel free to move on.  But if you do care that there are fakers out there, then maybe this could be of some use to you too.  We have a serial faker on the loose on dA today so it sparked this little lot once more.  
So, the questions/scenarios asked are always the same and the responses/justifications are always the same, but give them a minute to sink in before replying and insulting.
(Q1) Why do you care if someone is cheating what does it have to do with you?
(A1) Well, this is a public ART site and if people are submitting art that is not actually what they claim it to be, then they are dishonest. This will annoy some people and not others. If your passionate about your work then the chances are you'll find it insulting to the artistic community as a whole. Additionally, a lot of admins of groups HAVE to deal with fakes as a daily occure

which states clear cut facts so as to why the whole issue about someone faking their art creates rage waves through the art community!
The last week has been a riot which ended up in me getting blocked by two deviants here who clearly have something to hide!
I obviously care much less about the fact that there are many artists here on dA who get more famous than others considering the skill work. Some people get lucky and some don't. It's not easy getting known around this site.
But the fact that people would want to fake art to get accolades makes me angrier than ever.

Here are two examples on what happens when you try to confront artists whom you are suspicious about!
Example 1- The "awesome":iconnatmorley:
Nonsense-1 by zakkiya29
Now now Bratnorley) , you don't need to get all worked up for a single comment there do you?
You obviously think we are all stupid people here who don't really see what you are doing? The scribbles you do to hide what lies underneath and the perfect proportions that never go are a millimeter apart from the reference, all seem a bit fishy don't you think? You only reply to the people who seem to confront you. Does that make us idiots in not understanding that you obviously know you are on the wrong and you're just retaliating because you are scared to be found out. Well guess what you may have the internet to hide behind with your not-at-a;;-legit drawings but in the real world you are obviously going to get a taste of what actually lies there!

Example 2-The very "professional" :icongabbi3ram0s:
Nonsense by zakkiya29
Madam Ramos! You blooming career at 20 which you have so professionally achieved by learning how to use a few filters in PS or some other editing program seems like such an achievement.Let me tell you a little secret! Even your editing skills wont get you anywhere! Guess what they are pre-made! And as for the fact that I should concentrate on what I do. I do my drawing with a 100% dedication and I spend my time learning how to get better after each drawing. I might not be very good but I know that I am legit and I can produce proof that I am! So don't you dare threaten me by telling I need to take free lessons from you to improve my skills because I obviously am not looking for a lesson in an editing software! And I am not stupid enough to not understand your sarcastic P.S.!

THE END
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:icona-nat-fan:
A-Nat-Fan Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Hello,
I love Nat to the point of death, so I made this account to thank her... please do check out my page,
AND my Facebook page for her...

[link]

AND SPREAD THE WORD! TELL PEOPLE TO LIKE THAT PAGE! :)

I don't know if you can see my sarcasm hands typing though...
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol. Yes! I lurrveeee her :XD:
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:iconaty-s-behsam:
Aty-S-Behsam Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hell no!
She's going down!
Count me in! > [link]
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She definitely is!!
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:iconaty-s-behsam:
Aty-S-Behsam Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
:( :hmm:
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:iconfakeartdetect:
FakeArtDetect Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Just these journals are enough for people with a bit of common sense to understand that she is making a fool of 2000 plus people!
What a BRAT!
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:iconladyfromeast:
LadyFromEast Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm wonderwing if she'd arrive to teach me those lessons if I asked her :)
XD
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol. You would learn so much!!
:giggle:
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:iconvahnkira:
VahnKira Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
HAHA !
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Would be so much fun! :D
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:iconvishw:
Vishw Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Another one!?? What is with these people?? Already reported one photomanipulator douchebag today! :disbelief:
Thank you for sharing, btw! :)
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know right!!!
It's so frustrating. Art theft and faking art are two very unethical things one can do to the art community at large. They have the Internet to hide their faces behind and that's what make them so confident.
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:iconvishw:
Vishw Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
dA just decided to remove the "Notify me upon resolution" checkbox from the Report Deviation modal because they found that it promoted negativity within the community and led to harassment. Not a very wise decision by dA, while these fakers & thieves run amok!
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:iconfluessiges-feuer:
Fluessiges-Feuer Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you, this really helps (:
Never come across these people yet, but its not that hard to see that they're fakes when you know what to look for (:
Those rules are hilarious ^^
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly. People just need to see. The more people get to know about them the more aware they can be.
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:iconfluessiges-feuer:
Fluessiges-Feuer Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer

sorry for double post, but the fact that the WIP links of hers don't work just make it...
funny?
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes very. Oh well but she would have nothing to show because they don't exit. :XD:
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I finnaly was blocked from :icongabbi3ram0s: My first time being blocked! I feel very special! :dummy:
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:iconladyfromeast:
LadyFromEast Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She deactivated her account :)
It would be funny to make a stamp "I was blocked by gabbi3ram0s" like people did with Vampirella long ago :lol:
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Brilliant! At least something came good out this. And now it's mission bratnorley!
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Finally she deactivated her account, finally! iconsomuchwin-plz:
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm not special :(
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awww Viki. My condolences.:giggle:
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why are you saying it? :noes:
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I don't get blocked :no:

:giggle:
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awwwww I'm so sorry :(

:giggle:
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I think I'll grab a teddybear and eat iceccream until it stopps hurting... :p
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:XD:
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Is there anyone here the "professional" hasnt blocked yet? :XD>
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:iconangelasportraits:
AngelasPortraits Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
me
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:iconpbird12:
pbird12 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Lol, this is all hilarious ... so again, she knows how to block people in an instant, but still can't figure out the reply button :P

I'll tell you what, if that is someone we know they should sod off before we know for sure, because they're being abusive now.

They can trace ip addresses at the helpdesk, so I've logged a complaint with them to have to checked out if this ip corresponds to another user on dA :)
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I can't wait till they reply and find out who the parasite it.
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:iconpbird12:
pbird12 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Me too! They can still trace a deactivated account so that's fine :)
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's brilliant then!
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:iconacjub:
acjub Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm looking forward to their answer! :XD:
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:icongabbi3ram0s: has posted a very funny journal entry on her profile about rules for visiting her page :lmao: [link]
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I did see that!
She is a silly one isn't she? :lmao:
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
She is imature :XD: She wants to be cool and nice here on DA but she can't :laughing:
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Does anyone know a staff member?
Someone you could call a friend? It would be a lot of help if someone is actually in touch with one of them...
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am not too close to any of the staff members here. Other than suggesting DDs to a few CVs here I hardly know anyone personally!
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LilaeaBluecoat Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012
Now that you've started, I'm wondering if 'we' (as in our sort of 'group' of friends in pencils here) should all do a journal like this. Perhaps if enough of us post (especially about the one I sadly have a name in common with), we, as a group, might have enough credibility that other people will start looking more closely at her work??
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:iconzakkiya29:
zakkiya29 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know how that would help . They could all accuse of getting together and plotting.
We need hell lots proof.
Even if the word got out and a lot of people reported the journals, it would be taken down.
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
BUT the word would be spread and if our whole SWAT team makes a journal, it's much easier and will take them longer to report.
Just think about that "hacker" thing that went around DA lately! Everyone shared that!
And I think that the people who watch us, are likely to believe us and I don't think Bratnorley will check her comment thoughroughly ;)
But yes, we need prof, a hell of a proof...
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:iconlilaeabluecoat:
LilaeaBluecoat Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Here's a small start with some proof: [link]
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:iconlilaeabluecoat:
LilaeaBluecoat Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Maybe it wouldn't 'help' per se, but the idea was more to more or less simultaneously speak of our doubts towards our own watchers. Maybe the collective of us doing so, would make at least a couple of people think twice about just taking her artwork to be the real deal?
Of course this wˇuld get the aggressive fan-girls come flocking to us for some HOW DARE YOU sessions...
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I thought of that too... but technically it's against DA's TOS to make a callout journal... :shrug:
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:iconlilaeabluecoat:
LilaeaBluecoat Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Huh. It is, huh? It probably would be, yes...
But is expressing doubt really 'calling out', though?
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:iconileina:
Ileina Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You may not post anything to your journal which would be considered pornography (whether it be image or textual), you may not post racist remarks or other hate speech or post links to websites which host materials which are prohibited under the deviantART terms of service.
Also, you may not use your journal to display unfiltered images which are considered to be Mature Content


Oh, I think we would be fine :D

Have you changed your icon? How am I supposed to know you then?! :iconjackiechanface1plz::iconjackiechanface2plz:
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:iconlilaeabluecoat:
LilaeaBluecoat Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
Huh? Do you mean me? Because I've always used this one!

But yeah. It should be very doable to steer clear of outright hate speech. :nod:
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